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you would rather be president obama than mitt romney looking at these numbers. that plus 19 advantage that the president has on looking out for the middle class, that is a death nail for mr. romney's campaign if he cannot turn that around. but i think looking ahead to tonight's debate, there is a real opportunity in the huge disconnect in the electorate, in a way that reflects a real risk for president obama. there's this huge disconnect between mr. obama's best number with voters and one of his worst numbers. which is that president obama has so far not been able to persuade people to connect these two ideas, right? he has not been able to persuade people that doing right by the middle class, where he does great, actually is the way you fix the economy. so in other words, yeah, heading into this first debate, mr. romney may seem like an out of touch rich guy who's going to be bad for the average american, but people still think that maybe a thurston howell-type figure might be what we need to get the economy in shape. sort of a discordant idea, but it seems to
you would rather be president obama than mitt romney looking at these numbers. that plus 19 advantage that the president has on looking out for the middle class, that is a death nail for mr. romney's campaign if he cannot turn that around. but i think looking ahead to tonight's debate, there is a real opportunity in the huge disconnect in the electorate, in a way that reflects a real risk for president obama. there's this huge disconnect between mr. obama's best number with voters and one of...
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your first point about governor romney making that absurd claim in massachusetts was not number one, right? and here is the deal. according to the national education report card in the year 2012, are we ready? massachusetts is number one, number one. number one. that's right. >> not when he was governor, not when he was governor. when he was governor it worked. >> the point is he turned it around. >> i'm glad we're talking about his record as governor. i'm very happy with the job he did with health care. talk about that. lou: you know what, may be on your show, but on this one what we will talk about is how this translates to vote on november 6th because obama got his tail kicked, as i said earlier. what does this mean for the future? the future being defined as between now and november. >> the republicans had a mess of the enthusiasm that going into this first debate. a little bit of concern on the conservative side among the best that romney was not being tough and aggressive enough in taking it to barack obama. the polling was showing he was a head or at the very least the race wa
your first point about governor romney making that absurd claim in massachusetts was not number one, right? and here is the deal. according to the national education report card in the year 2012, are we ready? massachusetts is number one, number one. number one. that's right. >> not when he was governor, not when he was governor. when he was governor it worked. >> the point is he turned it around. >> i'm glad we're talking about his record as governor. i'm very happy with the...
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the $716 billion number, which governor romney mentioned, was never debunked and it had been debunked many times before. he didn't bring up the governor's taxes or talk about immigration policies. big impact, i would think, of those misses in this debate. >> that's why i'm listening to the governor talking about skating and dancing around the questions, you might argue that president obama skated and danced around what he needed to do. because this wasn't just a serious of speeches. this was a debate. they were supposed to engage one another. and i can't imagine that the governor isn't disappointed that the president wasn't more aggressive in sayinsaying, okay governor romney, what are the specifics is? how are you going to reform the tax code? >> there was a quote from a james carville, governor, who, of course, is a big obama supporter, and basically his assessment was, the president was just not sharp. here's what he said. let's play that. >> i had one overwhelming impression. i did everything i could not to reach it, but i had to reach it. it looked like romney wanted to be there
the $716 billion number, which governor romney mentioned, was never debunked and it had been debunked many times before. he didn't bring up the governor's taxes or talk about immigration policies. big impact, i would think, of those misses in this debate. >> that's why i'm listening to the governor talking about skating and dancing around the questions, you might argue that president obama skated and danced around what he needed to do. because this wasn't just a serious of speeches. this...
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that is a pretty significant amount and it sounds like a small number -- number. did that 60% look at romney last night and say boy this is somebody i feel a lot better about than i did going into this debate? i have to think that for those, and some weren't paying attention and some more but those paying attention the answer has to be yes. so i think you are going to see a bump in the polls for romney. i don't think you can tell from any polling done last night. i certainly believe that 67% said that, believe that romney won the debate. that by the way is a stunning number. usually the debates, our side thinks our guy won and there side thinks their guy won and it comes out about even in the wash so it was pretty decisive. >> real quickly glen, explained to a group of people and i doubt if there is an undecided voter in this room -- [laughter] what to undecided voters look like? who are they? >> they look like the kind of people who tell the waiter to come back at the restaurant because they haven't made up their mind on what they are having for dinner. [laughter
that is a pretty significant amount and it sounds like a small number -- number. did that 60% look at romney last night and say boy this is somebody i feel a lot better about than i did going into this debate? i have to think that for those, and some weren't paying attention and some more but those paying attention the answer has to be yes. so i think you are going to see a bump in the polls for romney. i don't think you can tell from any polling done last night. i certainly believe that 67%...
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that's number one. number two, will take programs that are currently good programs will be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to stay. number three, i will make agencies and departments. the cutbacks will be done through attrition, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled that. trillion dollar deficits for the last four years. the president has put it in place as much public debt, almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> moderator: mr. president, two minutes. obama: when i walked in and oval office at more than a $3 trillion deficit greeting me. we know where it came from, to worst paid for in a credit card, to tax cuts that were not paid for and a whole bunch of programs that were not paid for and then a massive economic crisis. and despite that, what we have said is yes, we had to take some initial emergency measures to make s
that's number one. number two, will take programs that are currently good programs will be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to stay. number three, i will make agencies and departments. the cutbacks will be done through attrition, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled that. trillion dollar deficits for the last four years. the president has put it in...
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for that small number of voters that haven't made up their minds, has this helped romney? >> very difficult past few weeks, if last night went well for the president you kind of have a hardening of the belief that the race is virtually sealed, out of reach. the debate has ended that discussion and it's going to remind us, move into the conversation, a reminder that the president faces in this debate. mitt romney did had himself some good with those undecided voters and just as importantly energized the he republican base. there's a sense of retooling in the obama campaign, look, incoming presidents often have problems in their first debate. people don't talk to you like that in the oval office. no question the president needs a reset. >> ron brownstein, thank you very much for your wise words of analysis. cnn will reair the presidential debate in case you didn't see it. it will reair the debate at 1:00 pm eastern. >>> a look at other stories we're watching this morning. developing situation in turkey, where the government has authorized troop deployment in foreign countrie
for that small number of voters that haven't made up their minds, has this helped romney? >> very difficult past few weeks, if last night went well for the president you kind of have a hardening of the belief that the race is virtually sealed, out of reach. the debate has ended that discussion and it's going to remind us, move into the conversation, a reminder that the president faces in this debate. mitt romney did had himself some good with those undecided voters and just as importantly...
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it is an amazing number and it is the most since reagan and carter back in 1980. sound familiar? reagan. the market by the way loved it. stocks up 81 points on the dow. call it the romney rally. plus lastly america's brave warriors are being denied the right to vote. this is a terrible story. why is team obama and the pentagon not helping our fighting men and women cast their absentee ballots? we will have that story. >>> the day after mitt romney politely and respectfully cleaned obama's clock president obama tried to quickly turn the page. cnbc's amin javers has more. >> reporter: the day after the debate strategy tells you which campaign this they won last night and which did not win. mitt romney spoke on tv after the network newscasts had gone on the air. that forced the tv networks through the day and the evening broadcast this is evening to use pictures from last night's debate again and again. president barack obama, however, had two rallies including one in denver, colorado where he had sort of a chance to do a do-over from last night. take a listen. >> when i got onto th
it is an amazing number and it is the most since reagan and carter back in 1980. sound familiar? reagan. the market by the way loved it. stocks up 81 points on the dow. call it the romney rally. plus lastly america's brave warriors are being denied the right to vote. this is a terrible story. why is team obama and the pentagon not helping our fighting men and women cast their absentee ballots? we will have that story. >>> the day after mitt romney politely and respectfully cleaned...
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and i was watching some of the meters and when romney was going through his five point plan, his numbers went straight up. i thought -- i don't think it was vague, i thought it was a lot of substance. >> it was the most substive debate i can remember in terms of plans in a long time. maybe the bar is set so low it's not hard to get over but i was kind of surprised. >> i guess what is substance these days, especially in the modern debate or communications? i guess my summation would be you had a very good sense of these two yes's philosophy and approach to government. and substance will save it for span span. >> i guess my reaction and i say this as someone who was born and raised in louisiana. i don't think there is any significant voter fraud in this country, widespread organized voter fraud. i think the bush justice department found 400 individual cases in eight years. that works out to one case per state per veer so that seems to me, fairly light. do i think that a lot of republicans and conservatives -- do i think if you gave them shots and wired them up to a polygraph machine and as
and i was watching some of the meters and when romney was going through his five point plan, his numbers went straight up. i thought -- i don't think it was vague, i thought it was a lot of substance. >> it was the most substive debate i can remember in terms of plans in a long time. maybe the bar is set so low it's not hard to get over but i was kind of surprised. >> i guess what is substance these days, especially in the modern debate or communications? i guess my summation would...
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well, we know romney is basing that seven million jobs number on a study by john diamond from rice university. diamond published that study on august 3rd. but here is the catch. diamond is also quoted in the "national journal" saying it is not politically possible to pass that sort of tax plan and create seven million new jobs over the next decade. remember romney's promising 12 million in just his first term. that is a pretty lofty goal. it would be one of the strongest growth periods in recent history and would mean we would have to add a quarter of a million jobs every single month. but several economists are saying those jobs are coming just as part of the natural economic recovery and they'll happen no matter who is president. more bill press is coming up after the break. we are live in chat. current.com/billpress. i.q. will go way up. how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whi
well, we know romney is basing that seven million jobs number on a study by john diamond from rice university. diamond published that study on august 3rd. but here is the catch. diamond is also quoted in the "national journal" saying it is not politically possible to pass that sort of tax plan and create seven million new jobs over the next decade. remember romney's promising 12 million in just his first term. that is a pretty lofty goal. it would be one of the strongest growth...